1998 Japan Trip


This course introduces students to Japanese Buddhism with a particular emphasis on Zen Buddhism. It explores the relationship of Japanese Buddhism with other religious traditions of Japan such as Shintoism, Taoism, and Christianity as well as its influence on Japanese culture. The primary teaching method is experiential. The course entails a 3-week trip to Japan (Kyoto and Nagasaki). In Kyoto, students will visit Temples, have instructions by a Zen abbot, meet Roshi Harada at Hosshinji, and participate in the monastic life of the International Zen Center (Kokusai Zendo). In Nagasaki students will explore an "inside perspective" on Japanese culture through homestays and interaction with Japanese students. In addition to this experiential dimension, the course will familiarize students with the history, scriptures and beliefs of these Japanese Buddhism through readings from primary texts, lectures, videos, and class discussions. It will further analyze the Buddhist response to general topics and problems, such as the absolute, the notion of self, the problem of human existence, as well as soteriological and ethical issues.


It is the philosophy of the course that learning is a dialogical process and has to include some experiential dimension. This course will teach Japanese Buddhism primarily through the interaction of students with Buddhist monks and the encounter and exploration of Buddhist art and culture. Students are encouraged to apply the content of class discussions and lectures to their sightseeing activities as well as to the encounter of Japanese Buddhism in practice and personal interaction. Finally, the course will emphasize a critical reflection of these experiences and the learning process in form of a Journal and the in-depth exploration of an individual topic.


The course will combine lectures, group work, class discussions, individual projects, and experiential learning techniques to investigate the basic scriptures, concepts, and practices of Japanese Buddhism. In particular, the course will contain four major pedagogical methods. First, it will use the lecture format to introduce students to the basic historical development and conceptual framework of Buddhism. Second, it will explore Kasulis' "Zen Action - Zen- Person" through a critical reading and group discussions. Third, students will explore Buddhist culture, practices, and art through visits to temples and holy sites as well as through participation in meditation and dharma talks. Finally, students will explore one particular aspect of Japanese Buddhism in a personal project.


  1. Students will exhibit an appreciation of the diversity, wealth, and profundity of Japanese Buddhism.
  2. Students will exhibit a familiarity with the fundamental texts, concepts, beliefs, and practices of Japanese Buddhism.
  3. Students will exhibit a basic understanding of the ethical and soteriological issues within Japanese Buddhism.
  4. Students will exhibit a basic appreciation and understanding of the role religion - especially Buddhism - plays in Japanese culture.
  5. The students will improve their skills in critical thinking, reading proficiency, and oral presentation.


Due to the nature of this course there are additional guidelines for this course: 

  1. We will be guest of the Japanese people in general and Daitokuji, Hosshinji, the International Zen Center, Nagasaki Junior College for International Languages, and the host-families in particular. Thus, it is pivotal that we obey the Japanese laws (Japan has zero tolerance of drugs and guns) and are courteous to our hosts and their sensibilities. The violation of the Japanese law can lead to dismissal after consultation with Luther College. 
  2. While we are in Japan, we will be representatives of the U.S.A. and Luther College. The actions of the individual will reflect not only on Luther College but also on us as a group. 
  3. While travelling, it is the responsibility of the instructor to make all the necessary reservations and to communicate the necessary information to the students. However, it is the responsibility of the students to be on time and to follow the instructions. In a foreign country you cannot afford to underestimate the time required to reach a rendezvous-point in order to catch a train, bus, or to participate in a scheduled event. Especially when travelling the group cannot wait for individuals who are late. 
  4. While the course encourages individual initiative and leaves room for individual explorations of Kyoto and Nagasaki, it is pivotal not to forget that we travel as and constitute a group and thus have obligations toward this group and every individual participant. 
  5. If you have any questions regarding the organization of the trip, the course, the work load. the Japanese language, or cultural codes of Japan, feel free to consult the instructor.


01/08 - 01/16: 
Ryokan Seiki: 188-1 Kadowaki-cho, Yamato-Oji, Gojo-agaru-higashi-iru, Higashiyama-ku, Kyoto 605. Phone: (075) 551-4911, Fax (075) 551-9251. 

[from the U.S. the phone number is 011-81-75-551-4911. Do not have your families call or fax you at the Ryokan. Of course in EMERGENCIES this would be o.k. If you feel you want to call your family you should so Friday 01/09 or Saturday 01/10. However do not forget that these phone calls will be expensive and that the time difference between Japan and the Midwest is 14 hours - Japan is 14 hours ahead]. The best time to have your family contact you is when we are in Nagasaki. 

In case of an EMERGENCY in Kyoto (but only then) you can contact Professor Jeff Shoreat Hanazono University: office: (075) 811-5181. 

01/16 - 01/18: 
International Zendo: Inukai, Sogabe-cho, Kameoka, Kyoto-Ken 621. Phone (0771-23-1784); Fax: (0771-24-0152)

[Do not have your family call here (this is a monastery); in emergency, a fax is more appropriate] 

01/19 - 01/27: 
In addition to the addresses of your host families and buddies: 

Kyoko Kiyama (director of the homestay program: (0958) 40-2006, [email protected]
Mark Tiedemann (director of the Japan Studies in Nagasaki Program): (0958) 40-2000 fax (095) 840-2206, [email protected]

01/27 - 01/28: 
Green Hotel: Phone: (092)-451-4111

(from the U.S.: 011-81-92-4111); Fax: (092-451-4508)
When contacting your family do not forget the TIME DIFFERENCE of 14 hours. 


Thomas Kasulis Zen Action - Zen Person
Byron Earhart Japanese Religion
reader with primary texts to be distributed


  • Active participation in all events listed in the schedule (if not identified as "optional") (33 percent of course grade)
  • Journal (running commentary to readings, featuring questions about the text, summary of main points, and creative reflection of the material) (33 percent of course grade). Journal assignments are due, the day we discuss the respective reading.
  • Individual project (to be chosen from the following:) 
    • Japanese pottery
    • Japanese modern art
    • Buddhist architecture
    • Buddha statues
    • archery matsuri
    • Mizuko-ritual
    • Shinto-shrines
  • Presentation of this project to the class. Students are recommended to explore their topic in teams of two.


Preliminary Preparations: 

For the trip you need passport, ISID, and travel money. You should be able to get along with $600 (minnimum - it does not hurt to carry more money than you need). The best way of carrying the money is in traveller's cheques, in dollar or, if you have the opportunity to exchange money, in Yen. While travelling it is the safest to have your money on you (avoid having your wallet in your backpockets). If you decide to take traveller's cheques, carry the receipts thereof separately.

You need to purchase (and bring) two presents - one for your buddy and one for your host family. Try to bring something "typical" from your area.

When you pack your luggage be sure to include a sweater and comfortable clothing (for the monastery), at least one set of good clothes, easily removable shoes, and raingear. The weather will be roughly between 35 F and 55 F. Since the course includes a couple of day trips, include a backpack in your luggage. When you pack be sure to store all your valuables and all necessary items such as medicine you require, toothbrush, in the carry-on luggage - the trip from LA to Kyoto will take us roughly 35 hours. Do not carry any items which could be construed to be weapons such as scissors in your carry-on luggage. Finally, don't forget to store things-to-do such as books, letters, etc in your carry-on luggage.

I also would suggest that you read major sections of the course readings already at home or on the plane. This will not only prepare you for the course but will also take pressure of you when you are in Japan. If you have time check out some of the articles on Japan, which I put on the reserve. These articles will provide a conceptual framework which will help you to interpret and process your experiences in Japan (after all this is the task of the humanistic disciplines).

The Minneapolis group will meet at the departure gate of flight AA 2022 to Chicago at 1:30 p.m. You should check-in, at 1:12 p.m. at the latest. I will try to be in Minneapolis at 1:00 p.m. (but this depends on the weather conditions). Check in at the counter of American Airlines. Check you luggage through to Los Angeles. Try to meet each other at the check-in counter so that you can coordinate your seat-assignments. We will arrive in Chicago at 3:30 p.m.

The Chicago group will check in for AA 453 at the American Airline counter before 3:00 p.m. They will meet the Minneapolis group at 3:45 p.m. at the departure gate. Try to meet each other at the check-in counter so that you can coordinate your seat-assignments.

We will arrive at LAX at 6:34 p.m. After our arrival, we will proceed together to the luggage claim and, then, we will take the airport shuttle to the Comfort Inn. After checking-in, we will visit a local eatery for dinner. In the evening we will have our first class discussion:

KASULIS: Person and Context - chapter 1 (Journal 1 due). In this session we will discuss the conception of person in Japanese Buddhism.

Airport shuttle to Los Angeles International Airport at 8:00 a.m. - checking in at the counter of KE - Breakfast at the airport . Before checking-in, we will coordinate possible seat-assignments.

Departure of KE 18 from LAX at 11:10 a.m. The flight will roughly take 14 hours, during which you will be served two meals (I think). You will also have the opportunity to see 2 films.

We will arrive in Seoul on Thursday at 5:20 p.m. local time. After "deplaning," we will walk to our departure gate together. At 6:00 p.m., we will meet again at the departure gate. Our plane, KE 721, will leave Seoul at 6:30 p.m. During the flight, please fill out the immigration and the custom forms.

Arrival at Kansai International Airport (KIX) at 8:00 p.m - immigration - picking up our luggage at the baggage claim - customs - Vanessa will meet us on the other side of the customs. If possible, you can exchange money in the airport while I purchase the train tickets to Kyoto. The train station, from which we will depart for Kyoto, is connected with the airport via an overpass. On the trip to Kyoto, we should decide the room arrangement for our time at Ryokan Seiki.

Upon arrival in Kyoto, we will take the taxi to our B&B: Ryokan Seiki. 

The pervasive theme of the first day is "orientation to Kyoto." We will begin the day with breakfast at a local coffee shop (kissaten) - visit to Kiyomizudera (see appendix 1), one of the main Pure Land Buddhist temples in Kyoto, and the Jishu Shrine in the morning - lunch at a local udon (noodle soup) place - introduction to the public transportation system in Kyoto - visit to the train station, which functions as the center of the public transportation system - visit to the main shopping areas at Shijo-Dori and Teramachi. At dinner, I will introduce you to Japanese cuisine and to the protocol of ordering food in a Japanese restaurant - in the evening (9:00 p.m.): discussion of early Buddhism (readings from the reader/appendix 2 - Journal 2 due).

I would like you to decide whether you who want to visit Mt. Hiei (01/13) and/or to the traditional Japanese theater (group rate is $30/person) on the 01/14 (both activities are not in the group budget). I also would like you to think more concretely about your projects and their execution.

Optional breakfast at 7:45 a.m - departure at 8:15 a.m to Daitokuji, one of the main Rinzai Zen Temples in the north of Kyoto - introduction to Zen meditation (9:00 - 10:30) at Daitokuji - exploration of Daitokuji - lunch at a nearby lunch place - visit to the famous Kinkakuji (appendix 3) (the picture of which you can find on the cover of the latest CD of the Luther band) - afternoon is free - it will be possible to meet me for dinner on Teramachi at 5:45 p.m. - meeting at 6:00 p.m. in front of the Marutamachi subway station - dinner in a small "Japanese diner" where we will first discuss Kasulis' chapter on emptiness and, then, meet Reverend Inamoto, a Pure Land priest. Reverend Inamoto has unorthodox views of the social mission of Buddhism and the role of property and poverty in the fulfillment of this mission.

Journal 3 will be due that evening.

Visit to the Imperial palace (appendix 4) in the morning - 1:00 p.m. - 3:00 p.m. class at the Kyoto International Community Center (Kasulis' chapter 3 & 4 - Journal 4 is due) - 3:00 p.m. - 5:00 p.m. Dr. Watanabe will give a lecture on Aum Shinrikyo. Dr. Watanabe is Professor of religion at the Nanzan Institute for religion and culture; he is one of the leading experts on Aum Shinrikyo. The homepage of the Nanzan Institute introduces Dr. Watanabe as follows:

Manabu Watanabe "studied philosophy, ethics, psychology, and religion at Sophia University, Tsukuba University, and the University of Chicago. His doctoral dissertation was on C. G. Jung's hermeneutical framework and was subsequently published as The Psyche and the Experiential World (in Japanese). In 1992 it was honored with an award for academic excellence by the Japanese Association for Religious Studies. In 1994 he published a collection of essays under the title Jungian Psychology and Religion (in Japanese), centered on the growth and development of Jungian psychology in Japan with a special focus on religious issues. His interests are rather broad and interdisciplinary, including the history, psychology, and philosophy of religions."
( http://www.ic.nanzan-u.ac.jp/SHUBUNKEN/staff-frame.html)
The evening is free.

Day trip to HOSSHINJI, a training temple of the Soto Zen sect of Buddhism: Here we will meet Roshi Harada (the Zen master) and American and European monks. This will be our first "inside" experience of Zen Buddhism. Hosshinji is located in Obama-shi, a small town 90 train minutes northwest of Kyoto. Hosshinji's liaison person for english-speaking visitors is David Rumme, aLuther graduate. David Rumme "grew up in Nagoya Japan where his father (also LC grad) was a missionary for 30 + years. David has spent the last 19 years + as a Buddhist monk in the Hosshin Temple" (Uwe Rudolf).

"What is it that so attracts Americans about Zen? One answer comes from the six-foot-five-inch- tall son of American Christian missionaries who now goes by the name Daigaku, meaning "great mountain." Daigaku has been meditating as a Zen monk over seventeen years in a temple in rural Japan. 'In mainstream Judeo-Christianity,' he says, ' most people have a dualistic view of God and Man. In Buddhism everything is Buddha. It's just a matter of waking up to that , and ZAZEN, or mediating is the means to do it. Buddhism is the only religion that has the guts to really deal with the three most difficult aspects of the ego: greed, anger and ignorance. Zen is the way of liberation form the ego-self'"
(Frederik Schodt's America and the Four Japans, 38-39)

Reflection on our experience at Hosshinji and discussion of Kasulis' chapter on Zen (chapter 5 & 6, appendix 5) in the evening.

Optional trip to Mt. Hiei - the holy mountain just north of Kyoto, Mt. Hiei was the religious center of Tendai Buddhism in the late Heian period. It is still one of the strongholds of traditional (pre-medieval) Buddhism.

7:00 p.m.: Mr. Jeff Shore will introduce us to the history and teaching of Rinzai Zen by combining a historical overview with personal experience. Jeff Shore, a graduate from Temple University in Buddhist studies - is a longstanding practitioner of Rinzai Zen, teaches Zen Buddhism and English at Hanazono College, has translated numerous Buddhist texts into English, and has published on Zen Buddhism in English as well as in Japanese.

Afterwards, we will discuss Kasulis' chapters on Dogen and Hakuin (chapters 7 & 8) - Journal 6 is due.

9:00 a.m. breakfast (optional) at a nearby coffee shop - 10:00 a.m. visit to Nijo castle (appendix 6) - Urasenke Tea School has invited us to special demonstration of Tea ceremony (appendix 7). The homepage of the Urasenke tea school describes the "WAY OF TEA - CHADO" as follows:

"Sen Rikyu, the 16th-century tea master who perfected the Way of Tea, was once asked to explain what this Way entails. He replied that it was a matter of observing but seven rules: Make a satisfying bowl of tea; Lay the charcoal so that the water boils efficiently; Provide a sense of warmth in the winter and coolness in the summer; Arrange the flowers as though they were in the field; Be ready ahead of time; Be prepared in case it should rain; Act with utmost consideration toward your guests. According to the well-known story relating the dialogue between Rikyu and the questioner mentioned above, the questioner was vexed by Rikyu's reply, saying that those were simple matters that anyone could handle. To this, Rikyu responded that he would become a disciple of the person who could carry them out without fail." 
( http://www.urasenke.or.jp/eframe.html) 

Afterwards we will go to "our diner Japanese style" where we will discuss Kasulis' chapters on Zen for today (chapters 9 & 10) (4:00 p.m. - 6:00 p.m.). In the evening, there is the possibility to visit a traditional Japanese theater.

This day is dedicated to the work on your projects. Students are encouraged to explore a topic in groups of 3 (one group of 3 is permitted). The goal of these projects is the in-depth exploration of one particular aspect of Japanese religion and/or culture. These projects further encourage students to combine experiential learning (visiting temples and shrines) with a more academic style of learning. Students are encouraged to utilize the library of the Kyoto International Community Center. It is suggested that students collect their material (visual material, notes, etc.) in Kyoto and type it up upon their return to Luther College. Students will present the result of their research to the class at the last day of class in Nagasaki.

Possible projects:

  1. Japanese pottery: exploration of Japanese pottery as an art form and as a cultural expression of Japanese spirituality. Suggested activities: visit of Kawaii Kanjiro's house, visit of Kiyomizuderayaki pottery museum, consultation of the library in the Kyoto International Community Center
  2. Japanese modern art: exploration of Japanese art and its usage of typically Buddhist motifs. Suggested activities: visit of the art museum, consultation of the library of the Kyoto International Community Center. 
    I have a particular interest in projects three through five. In the first half of next year, I would like to construct a homepage for my class on Asian religions. I would like to include parts of these projects into this homepage. Photographers and authors will be credited for their work - so you could have a worldwide exhibition so to speak. In general, students are encouraged to submit especially fitting pictures and reports from this trip to this project.
  3. Buddhist architecture: exploration of temple architecture in text and image. Students are encouraged to research and document specific styles of temple architecture. Suggested activities: visit of temples, documentation of various styles in image, consultation of library.
  4. Buddha statues: exploration of the variety of depiction of the Buddhas and Bodhisattvas in image and text. Suggested activities: visit of temples and documentation of different Buddha statues and images, consultation of the library of the Kyoto International Community Center.
  5. Shintoism: exploration of the religious belief, practices, and art of Shintoism in text and image. Shintoism is ta the religious tradition indigenous to Japan. It plays a subtle but crucial role in the social life and the self-understanding of Japan. Suggested activities: visit to Shrines (especially the Fox Shrine south of Kyoto station) document the art and architecture, consult library of the Kyoto International Community Center.
  6. Exploration of the Mizuko ritual. The Japanese attitude towards abortion is quite different from the American attitude. In general, abortion seems to be more accepted in Japan than it is in the U.S.A. In addition to differences in the underlying metaphysical assumptions and their ethical implications, one can notice a difference in the way Americans and Japanese deal with the grief and pain involved. Japanese Buddhism offers the Mizuko ritual as a religious act of penance and of the transformation of grief. Suggestion: exploration of temples that facilitate this ritual, consultation of the library of the Kyoto International Community Center.
  7. Matsuri: Shinto festivals are a central part of the religious and social life of Japan. On the 01/15, Kyoto celebrates the archery festival. Suggested activities: visit the festival, consult the library of the Kyoto International Community Center.

In the evening we will meet at 8:00 p.m. in order to discuss the progress on the projects and in order to talk about our stay in the monastery. 

Check-out and departure from the Ryokan at 8:00 a.m. - breakfast in the train station - after breakfast, we will take the train to Kameoka 

INTERNATIONAL ZEN MONASTERY - KOKUSAI ZENDO (2 days (01/16 12:00 p.m. - 01/18 12:00 P.M.) of Zen meditation under Dr. Hozumi).
The daily routine of the Kokusai Zendo is as follows:

5:00 a.m. getting up
5:20 a.m. morning service
6:00 a.m. zazen followed by tea
7:00 a.m. cleaning inside and out
7:30 a.m. morning meal
9:00 a.m. manual labor. Teisho lecture
12:30 p.m. lunch
2:00 p.m. zazen, sutra practice
4:00 p.m. evening service
5:00 p.m. supper
7:00 p.m. zazen, sanzen (formal interview with master)
9:00 p.m. lights out

Checking out from Kokusai Zendo - return via bus and train to Kyoto station - at the station we will have dinner (lunchboxes) together (if there is enough time, we will have to store our luggage in the storage room) while enjoying the view of Kyoto from the top of the train station - the bus to Nagasaki will leave at the 8:00 p.m. (the bus leaves EXACTLY on time).

We will arrive in Nagasaki at 7:35 a.m., where we will be welcomed up by a representative of Gaigo Tandai - arrival at Gaigo Tandai (international Junior College for Foreign languages) at 8:15 a.m. - luggage will be stored at the college for the day - breakfast - Dr. Mark Tiedemann, director of international affairs, will give us a orientation at 9:00 a.m. and a tour of the college at 10:40. - 12:30 a.m meeting and lunch with the buddies - our class will briefly meet at 1:30 a.m. to discuss the program, course work and technicalities of our stays at Nagasaki.

Our stay in Nagasaki: During our stay in Nagasaki we will be the guests of our host families. That means that we will spend most evenings and Sunday with our host families. On weekday mornings, we will, for the most part, have class discussions or welcome visiting speakers. Most of the afternoons will spend in exploring Nagasaki by means of various activities.

We will meet our host families at 3:00 p.m. and depart for their homes at 5:00 p.m.


"The college was founded after the war as 'Christian' college (its school motto is VITA VIA VERITAS = latin for 'the way the life the truth) and established itself in the Sumiyoshi district at the northern edge of Nagasaki. In 1995, the college built a completely new, ultra modern $50 million campus in Togitsu where we will be visiting. The college trains about 700 students, almost all female, in languages and culture, preparing them to work in the service industry as hostesses, flight attendants, etc, in positions requiring foreign languages. It is a two-year college that is currently working on becoming a four-year institution. Languages taught include English, French, German, Spanish, and Chinese." 
-Uwe Rudolf

"Mark Tiedemann is a 1980 graduate of Luther College, majoring in English. Originally from Platteville, Wisconsin, he has spent the last 13 years in Nagasaki and is a tenured Associate Professor of English at the Nagasaki Jr. College of Foreign Languages." He is further the director of the Japanese Studies in Nagasaki Program (JASIN). 
-Uwe Rudolf

9:00 a.m. Class on Nara and Heian Buddhism (Earhart pp. 39-52, 77-90) - lunch - 1:10 p.m. visit to ESL classes - 4:30 p.m. - 6:00 p.m. Calligraphy 

9:00 a.m. Class on Kamakura Buddhism (Earhart pp. 90-105) - 10:00 a.m. - 11:30 a.m. Mr. Brian Burke-Gaffney will talk to us about Nichiren Buddhism

"Brian Burke-Gaffney ia a writer and translator living in Nagasaki. His publications include Hana to Shimo: Gurubake no Hitobito (Blossoms and Frost: The Glover Family of Nagasaki (1989)) and Across the Gulf of Time: The International Cemeteries of Nagasaki (with Lane Earns) 1991. He is also co-editor of Crossroads: A Journal of Nagasaki History and Culture. Brian Burke Gaffney was born in Canada and spent 9 years in a monastery of the Nichiren-Shu. He has served Nagasaki City Hall as head of Cultural Affairs." 
-Uwe Rudolf

Lunch - 12:30 P.M. atomic bomb museum - 3:30 p.m. visit to the Suwa Shrine

"Nagasaki International Culture Hall is the official name of the atomic bomb museum. The hall was built in 1955 to show the world the horror of the 1945 atomic bombing of Nagasaki and the need to eliminate all nuclear weapons. The museum displays photographs, relics and documents related to the atomic bombing. Video films are also shown." 
-Your Guide to Nagasaki (p. 32)

9:00 a.m. Class on Shintoism (Earhart pp. 134-149) - 10:30 a.m. - 12:30 p.m. Mr. Nobuyoshi Yamabe will talk to us about Yogacara/Hosso Buddhism

"Dr. Nobuyoshi Yamabe is Associate Professor in the Department of Buddhist Studies at Kyushu Ryukoku Junior College. His articles include "An Shigao as a Precursor of the Yogacara tradition" and "Visionary Repentance and Visionary Ordination in the Brahma Net Sutra." Nobuyoshi Yamabe is presently writing his dissertation on Yogacara (Jap.: Hosso) Buddhism at Yale University.
-(short-bio from _Pruning the Bodhi-Tree_)

Lunch - 1:10 high school visit - 4:30 lecture in the culture center: Gereon Kopf on "Zen Through Western Eyes"

9:00 a.m. Restoration Shintoism (Earhart pp. 134-149) - 10:40 a.m. - 12:10 p.m. visit to ESL classes - lunch - visit to seaside, museum, and prefectural forest.

10:00 p.m. class on State Shintoism (Earhart pp. 150-160) - 11:00 a.m. lunch party with host families and buddies - 12:00 p.m. tour of Nagasaki with buddies.

Day with host families 

9:00 a.m. class on religion in Japan (Earhart pp. 7-20, 172-208) - lunch - Ms. Karen Seat will talk to us on Christianity in Japan.

Karen Seat grew up in Japan and is presently writing her dissertation on Christianity in Japan at Temple University. She is in Nagasaki for her research.

1:00 p.m. bus to Fukuoka - check in into the Green Hotel - exploration of Fukuoka

7:00 a.m subway to the airport - group check in - breakfast at the airport - 10:00 a.m. departure from Japan on KE 782 - arrival in Seoul 11:25 a.m. - 4:00 p.m. meeting at the departure gate for KE 35 - departure 4:35 p.m. - arrival in Chicago 2:20 p.m. - departure for Minneapolis 5:00 p.m. on NW 185 - arrival in Minneapolis 6:31 p.m.